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Mozello Shao
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PostSubject: Character Mary Sue Check   Character Mary Sue Check EmptySun Apr 22, 2012 11:33 am

http://www.springhole.net/writing/marysue.htm

http://www.ponylandpress.com/ms-test.html

I would ask that anyone who is intending to or has made a character profile weigh it against these tests. Answering these honestly with my own character gave results between 1 and 4 points.
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Zulera
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PostSubject: Re: Character Mary Sue Check   Character Mary Sue Check EmptySun Apr 22, 2012 11:53 am

ah yes... the good old Mary Sue tests...

Zulera scored a friggin -9. She had several things going for her (power, beauty, that sort of thing), but she has so many selfish, sadistic flaws that it apparently was counterbalanced. haha.

this is a very good thread though, and should be taken seriously. These are the types of standards that as Meili, I hold people's characters up to.
But, given that I am only one mod, and no one else does it too, I just go by the majority rules, and so I refrain from officially passing or failing a character.
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Meili
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Age: 43
Position: Earth Queen
Nation: Earth Kingdom

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PostSubject: Re: Character Mary Sue Check   Character Mary Sue Check EmptySun Apr 22, 2012 11:59 am

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I know this is technically a double post, but I need to find a way to pin this thread or something. It should be a sticky thread over the characters board.

Obviously, these are not the rules which everyone must follow or anything, but these tests are generally very good guidelines on how to make a good, believable character.
granted, you've all heard it from me 228 times and counting, so take it as you will.

=Meili=
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E`fel-vain Ama`lia
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E`fel-vain Ama`lia


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Age: 19
Position: Wanderer, Water Bender
Nation: Water Tribes

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PostSubject: Re: Character Mary Sue Check   Character Mary Sue Check EmptySun Apr 22, 2012 1:01 pm

42....yay:) That's decent haha...maybe..?
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PostSubject: Re: Character Mary Sue Check   Character Mary Sue Check EmptySun Apr 22, 2012 1:21 pm

*Pats E`fel-vain on the head* Less is better.
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E`fel-vain Ama`lia
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PostSubject: Re: Character Mary Sue Check   Character Mary Sue Check EmptySun Apr 22, 2012 2:31 pm

Pfft never mind, I got 42! Boooo....Beauty's in the eye of the beholder? haha
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Loki
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PostSubject: Re: Character Mary Sue Check   Character Mary Sue Check EmptySun Apr 22, 2012 8:34 pm

I got 12 which is pretty good I think. It's not my fault a nice person, Xue, nursed my character back to health though. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Character Mary Sue Check   Character Mary Sue Check EmptySun Apr 22, 2012 9:05 pm

I got 28. Gysu apparently sucks. But that's okay, for as his creator I am his father. And a father must always love his children no matter how crappy they are or no matter what they have done!
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PostSubject: Re: Character Mary Sue Check   Character Mary Sue Check EmptySun Apr 22, 2012 9:24 pm

I think the second test is more forgiving, I got a lower score on it.
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PostSubject: Re: Character Mary Sue Check   Character Mary Sue Check EmptyMon Apr 23, 2012 2:42 am

Zhifeng recieved a 14 on the first test. She's still pretty young in her storied life, so I'm sure there's ample opportunity for that score to climb.
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PostSubject: Re: Character Mary Sue Check   Character Mary Sue Check EmptyMon Apr 23, 2012 12:14 pm

you want it to stay low, and so 14 is actually a pretty good score. congrats to those who scored below 20ish, and to those that didn't... it's more like a set of guidelines on how to make more believable characters. just a heads-up.
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Zhifeng
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PostSubject: Re: Character Mary Sue Check   Character Mary Sue Check EmptyMon Apr 23, 2012 12:49 pm

I'm aware. I just know that Zhifeng is also my main character, and I know I'm far from a flawless author - so I'm sure I'll do something to heighten that score at some point. Then I hope that I'm good enough to mitigate said damages - but that remains to be seen.
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E`fel-vain Ama`lia
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E`fel-vain Ama`lia


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PostSubject: Re: Character Mary Sue Check   Character Mary Sue Check EmptyMon Apr 23, 2012 4:39 pm

I just took the second one...It wasn't as harsh...she got a 17:)


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Zia Ren
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Position: Healer
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PostSubject: Re: Character Mary Sue Check   Character Mary Sue Check EmptyMon Apr 23, 2012 4:59 pm

Zia Ren recieved a 12 on the first test and a 24 on the second...hm...So, I'm going to go with the median of the two and say that Zia Ren is probably around an 18. Very Happy
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Zulera
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PostSubject: Re: Character Mary Sue Check   Character Mary Sue Check EmptySat Apr 28, 2012 6:13 am

Zulera's like the anti-sue.
I took the 1st test this time and got a 10 without all the "De-Suifiers" [most of which covered some of Zulera's many vices] and that dropped her down to a 1.

so even though she's got all these cool powers and shiz, that fact that she's (A) not the best, (B) fairly lost fights against people that weren't necessarily better than her, and (C) has so many vices like selfishness, laziness, and such, dragged her score down. xD
just some thoughts.
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PostSubject: Re: Character Mary Sue Check   Character Mary Sue Check EmptySat Apr 28, 2012 3:11 pm

I got a 2!

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But that may be because I haven't done anything with Jung-Su yet.
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Zulera
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Zulera


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PostSubject: Re: Character Mary Sue Check   Character Mary Sue Check EmptyMon May 07, 2012 7:28 am

well, take your time, and know that a lower score is better. :3
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PostSubject: Re: Character Mary Sue Check   Character Mary Sue Check EmptySun May 13, 2012 11:45 am

First one: 12. Second: 7 Yay?
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PostSubject: Re: Character Mary Sue Check   Character Mary Sue Check EmptyMon May 14, 2012 12:22 am

-11... Because Zai is so flawed and sometimes meek, I'd assume. xp
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PostSubject: Re: Character Mary Sue Check   Character Mary Sue Check EmptyWed May 23, 2012 4:22 am

haha. Zenzi got a 6 on the 1st test, and a 3 on the 2nd one.
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PostSubject: Re: Character Mary Sue Check   Character Mary Sue Check EmptyThu May 24, 2012 1:04 pm

I just put Dood in, he got a 5 on the first test.
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